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非砚 发表于 2006-11-26 00:19:00 | 显示全部楼层

俄的DS的确在基本功方面比BA扎实,这个是俄系的优势

而且俄系朝中有人,今年BA的动作明显有被降组

再者,BA尤其是Belbin的用刃浅,一直是个问题,这就限制了她的进一步成长

 楼主| fs2046 发表于 2006-11-26 05:37:00 | 显示全部楼层
以下是引用非砚在2006-11-26 0:19:16的发言:

俄的DS的确在基本功方面比BA扎实,这个是俄系的优势

而且俄系朝中有人,今年BA的动作明显有被降组

再者,BA尤其是Belbin的用刃浅,一直是个问题,这就限制了她的进一步成长

非常赞同。DS的进步神速是事实,但俄冰协在国际冰联的势力和影响力也不容小觑。就算最近有点江河日下的感觉,怎么也是瘦死的骆驼比马大,奥运会某些不太正常的比分就很能说明问题。所以一定要有绝对高出对手的实力才能赢得理直气壮,有点暗算也无妨,千万不能把命运寄托在裁判手上。

除了俄罗斯的DS,法国的DS 也实力不俗,更不要提保加利亚的王牌DS了,看来要想在这场三DS战BA的混战里杀出条生路不容易呀!

B确实是BA里的weaker link,相信她自己也意识到这个问题了。不过Tan总能在关键时刻以倾城一笑最大限度地分散评委的注意力和赢得全场观众的心,也算是将功补过了吧,哈哈。

 楼主| fs2046 发表于 2006-11-26 05:47:00 | 显示全部楼层

今天的OD比赛是BA的强项,他们如愿以偿地暂列榜首,但与法国队的Delobel/Schoenfelder以及俄罗斯的Domina/Shabalin之间的距离并没有拉开。FD的比赛势均力敌,结果将直接决定冠军归属。不出意外,BA应该已经有90%迈进了总决赛的大门。祝他们笑到最后。

Dance OD Result:

1 Tanith BELBIN / Benjamin AGOSTO USA 58.02 28.30 29.72 7.80 7.70 7.85 7.85 7.90 0.00 #7
2 Isabelle DELOBEL / Olivier SCHOENFELDER FRA 57.83 28.30 29.53 7.80 7.70 7.70 7.85 7.80 0.00 #2
3 Oksana DOMNINA / Maxim SHABALIN RUS 52.36 24.08 29.28 7.70 7.65 7.50 7.75 7.85 1.00 #6
4 Sinead KERR / John KERR GBR 51.88 26.60 25.28 6.60 6.55 6.60 6.75 6.75 0.00 #10
5 Morgan MATTHEWS / Maxim ZAVOZIN USA 50.46 27.50 22.96 6.00 5.90 6.05 6.10 6.15 0.00 #8
6 Nora HOFFMANN / Attila ELEK HUN 48.89 25.80 23.09 6.15 5.90 6.15 6.10 6.10 0.00 #1
7 Kristin FRASER / Igor LUKANIN AZE 47.17 23.90 23.27 6.15 6.10 6.00 6.20 6.15 0.00 #5
8 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA 46.44 24.30 22.14 5.70 5.70 5.85 5.85 6.00 0.00 #3
9 Anastasia PLATONOVA / Andrei MAXIMISHIN RUS 45.65 24.30 21.35 5.65 5.50 5.50 5.80 5.65 0.00 #9
10 Alla BEKNAZAROVA / Vladimir ZUEV UKR 40.19 21.80 19.39 5.20 5.00 5.05 5.25 5.05 1.00 #4


CD and OD Combined Result:

1 Tanith BELBIN / Benjamin AGOSTO USA 94.58 2 1
2 Isabelle DELOBEL / Olivier SCHOENFELDER FRA 94.33 3 2
3 Oksana DOMNINA / Maxim SHABALIN RUS 90.35 1 3
4 Sinead KERR / John KERR GBR 84.13 4 4
5 Nora HOFFMANN / Attila ELEK HUN 79.14 6 6
6 Morgan MATTHEWS / Maxim ZAVOZIN USA 78.30 8 5
7 Kristin FRASER / Igor LUKANIN AZE 77.52 5 7
8 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA 74.56 7 8
9 Anastasia PLATONOVA / Andrei MAXIMISHIN RUS 73.29 9 9
10 Alla BEKNAZAROVA / Vladimir ZUEV UKR 65.33 10 10
WD Ekaterina RUBLEVA / Ivan SHEFER RUS

 楼主| fs2046 发表于 2006-11-27 00:26:00 | 显示全部楼层
以下是引用Wilwarin在2006-11-26 17:33:21的发言:

好帖子哦,以前一直没怎么关注小雷,现在才发现他是个有前途滴乖孩子

8一拢?趺炊季醯肊van和Tanith像是新一代的瓢虫和小caro[em44]

COI的动物园.....这一群小朋友啊.话说反串的主意不错哎


有朋自远方来,不亦乐乎!欢迎新朋友的光临!

用心去体会,你会发现生活中很多不曾发现的美好,其实如果没有冬奥会,我也许也会和这场美丽的相遇擦肩而过的。

EvanTanith的确有些些像当年小瓢虫那段puppy love :)。不过我真的希望他们童话般的恋爱能有个完美的结局

就像所有的公主和王子那样,从此过上了幸福快乐的生活,呵呵。


 楼主| fs2046 发表于 2006-11-27 01:35:00 | 显示全部楼层

给自己做个小小的广告,有喜欢yagudin的朋友请移步流金岁月,我刚刚翻译了他新近做的一个超长专访。从中你可以了解到他许多不为人知的才华以及侧面,还有他坦诚地谈到了自己对家庭,对手,爱情,事业,以及未来的看法,很值得一看。

非砚 发表于 2006-11-27 01:52:00 | 显示全部楼层
呵呵,赞fs2046,现在就去看~
Wilwarin 发表于 2006-11-26 17:33:00 | 显示全部楼层

好帖子哦,以前一直没怎么关注小雷,现在才发现他是个有前途滴乖孩子

8一下,怎么都觉得Evan和Tanith像是新一代的瓢虫和小caro[em44]

COI的动物园.....这一群小朋友啊.话说反串的主意不错哎

 楼主| fs2046 发表于 2006-11-27 00:37:00 | 显示全部楼层

恭喜BA! 在刚刚结束的大奖赛俄罗斯站冰舞自由舞比赛中,他们一扫中国站的阴霾,以出色稳健的发挥和186.33的总成绩勇夺金牌。这就意味着Tanith Evan将在下月14日在俄罗斯圣彼得堡举行的大奖赛总决赛中胜利会师。预祝他们都能高奏凯歌!

Ice Dancing, Free Dance
Tanith Belbin/Benjamin Agosto (USA) danced to victory in what was close competition in the dance event. Oksana Domnina/Maxim Shabalin (RUS) claimed the silver medal and Isabelle Delobel/Olivier Schoenfelder of France settled for the bronze.

Performing to Broadway melodies from “That’s Entertainment”, Belbin/Agosto completed strong twizzles, curve and serpentine lift with changes of position and a level-four dance spin. Their circular step sequence was graded a level three by the Technical Panel. The current World bronze medalists scored 91.99 points (47.20 element score/47.79 program component score) and accumulated a total score of 186.33 points to win the gold medal. “We’re extremely happy with our free dance this afternoon. We think we’ve made some big steps forward over China. I lot of the things we’ve worked at at home we were very happy with how they worked out here. We’re going home and prepare ourselves for the Grand Prix Final but we really feel we could not have done a better job with the free dance.”

All three medalists advance to the Grand Prix Final in St. Petersburg (RUS) in December. Belbin/Agosto took 15 points here and have 28 overall, as do Domnina/Shabalin, who secured 13 points in Moscow. Delobel/Schoenfelder received 11 points and have a total of 24.

The ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating continues next week in Nagano, Japan, with the NHK Trophy


 楼主| fs2046 发表于 2006-11-28 09:17:00 | 显示全部楼层

继续来贴Tan&Ben的美照,这是他们FD(That's entertainment)的新costume ,比中国站的要顺眼多了。Tan把头发束起来的样子最美了,希望她在以后的比赛里都沿用这个造型。


Belbin and Agosto rebounded from their loss to Russians Domnina and Shabalin, but it wasn't easy. Overall, Belbin and Agosto had 186.33 points to 185.34 for the Russians.

Still a win is a win for Belbin and Agosto as they try to catch up on lost training time due to their heavy schedule of tours and exhibitions over the summer.

That affected their choice of this year's free dance to the overture of “That's Entertainment” with its medley of movie musical hits.

This year we knew we had to do a program we would enjoy to relieve some of the stress with a short training period,” Belbin said. “We decided among ourselves to do a program that we enjoy, that we wanted to skate to - Not something we felt pressure to do by judges or coaches or anyone else.”

They said that they reviewed some of their own all-time hits - the Elvis program, the Latin original dance, the swing original dance - and noticed something.

“All the programs were fun and fast and happy, and that is how we do our best when we are skating,” Belbin said.

So they came across with something built on Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire and wanted to do “something that is light and fun as possible and as much as our own personalities.”

They scored 91.75 in the free dance while the Russians scored 94.99 – more than a three-point margin.

这是他们的CD(Golden Waltz)造型,白雪公主应该就是这个样子的!

 楼主| fs2046 发表于 2006-11-28 09:57:00 | 显示全部楼层

再八卦两句,昨天终于有机会好好欣赏了一下法国的DS的自由舞,真是太酷了,充满了想象力,新颖别致,这才是纯粹的法国味道!我对这对选手非常看好![em26]

保加利亚的 DS真有王者的气派和风度,特别雍容大气,和他们一比BA的确太嫩了。Dankova真的很美,她让我明白原来女人可以优雅而美丽地老去 没想到她竟然比Staviski还大三岁,好像冰舞里的姐弟配不多喔!

最彪悍的是那对意大利选手(有人知道他们的名字吗?),男选手倒悬在女选手腰间的滑行动作让美国媒体佩服得五体投地。那个女孩好像也不太高大,真难以置信她可以如此轻松地托举起高过自己半头的男伴! 而且她竟然还说‘It’s easy.’!!![em31] 最逗的是主播还特别强调该动作很危险,大家在家里千万不要模仿![em43]

冰舞八卦后一点男单消息,Lambiel同学的新节目Flamingo已经出炉了,大概会在 本周末的NHK杯亮相,很期待喔![em23]

鱼类 发表于 2006-11-28 10:11:00 | 显示全部楼层
以下是引用fs2046在2006-11-28 9:17:32的发言:

Tan真是太美了,小雷赚到了!

PS:这赛季的自由舞我也最喜欢保加利亚和法国两对DS的节目。

 楼主| fs2046 发表于 2006-11-28 10:18:00 | 显示全部楼层
以下是引用admin在2006-11-28 10:11:54的发言:


Tan真是太美了,小雷赚到了!

PS:这赛季的自由舞我也最喜欢保加利亚和法国两对DS的节目。

英雄所见略同,太好了!小雷会是个好男朋友的,所以小贝也赚到了 :)。你知道会女托男的那对选手叫什么吗?

鱼类 发表于 2006-11-28 10:22:00 | 显示全部楼层

你是指法国的奥运冠军Marina Anissina & Gwendal Peizerat吗

 楼主| fs2046 发表于 2006-11-28 10:28:00 | 显示全部楼层

多谢了! 好像是,但不太确定,我中间没看全,就看到了一个重放慢镜头,然后是那个女生用很浓重的口音说It’s easy,就完了。好像解说说他们是意大利人,也许我听错了。请问这是会女托男的唯一一对选手吗?

eric2000 发表于 2006-11-28 10:33:00 | 显示全部楼层
fs2046说的是意大利那对Faiella/Scali,鱼帖的是02年冬奥会冠军那对,他们也是女托男,不过FS这对比他们更强悍些。

FS今年的倒十字托举是挺惊人的,他们的女托男功力在逐年增长。






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