[讨论] Julia Obertas&Sergei Slavnov

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figuresk8er 发表于 2003-5-25 17:11:00 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Yulia是乌克兰人,和Dmitri Palamarchuk合作代表乌克兰获得了99年Junior Worlds冠军。
2000年后Yulia Obertas & Dmitri Palamarchuk不再合作。Julia到俄罗斯找到了新的搭档Aleksei Sokolov,他们的教练是Lyudmila Velikova。由于Soldatova Rule他们不得不等待两年才参加世界锦标赛。今年世界锦标赛,想必大家看到了Yulia Obertas & Aleksei Sokolov的表演。
今年世界锦标赛后,Yulia又换了一个搭档, Sergei Slavnov.

我个人认为,Yulia是当今amatuer world的最优秀女子双人滑选手,让我想起了年轻时候的Elena Berezhnaya. 她的能力再发展,很可能成为Katia和Lena之后又一位优秀的女子双人滑选手。她需要找到一个好的搭档,两人默契配合. Yulia像一个天使[em19]
期待在新的赛季看到他们比赛。
BTW,关于他们的教练有没有确切的消息?世界锦标赛上ABC说O&S会和Tamara Moskvina合作,当时听到消息后高兴了好几天。但是现在好像更大的可能性是和Lyudmila Velikova合作。
alexes 发表于 2003-5-25 23:17:00 | 显示全部楼层
说实在的我觉得Aleksei Sokolov的能力不及 Julia Obertas,这次世锦赛自由滑中的失误多数都出在Sokolov身上。Sergei Slavnov和前搭档曾经拿到2002年青少年世锦赛第2,他能力好象不错,但女伴经常失误。
我今年看Julia给我第一个感觉就是活脱一个小Elena,她上半部分的表现力真是太好了,而且她跳跃动作基本比较稳定,所以我希望她和Slavnov能强强联手,成为出色的双人滑选手。我前一段看到的消息也是说O/S要和Tamara Moskvina合作,好象有过消息说Tamara和他们在圣彼得堡见过面。但最近我没有看到他们的消息。


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alexes 发表于 2003-6-9 18:15:00 | 显示全部楼层
听说Tamara Moskvina收下了Borzenkova&Chuviliaev ,figuresk8er 了解他们吗?
alexes 发表于 2003-8-18 20:27:00 | 显示全部楼层
今天在FSU上看到的,希望这次消息是准确的了!
“According to Artur Verner at www.sports.ru forum, Obertas/Slavnov have switched to Moskvina as of a few days ago. ”
Yvonne 发表于 2003-8-18 23:48:00 | 显示全部楼层
obertas/sokolov的表演我看过,不过也仅限于少数几个短节目。比赛中到是没有看到sokolov的失误,也许他年纪轻轻就谢顶让我对他的印象变差了吧。
alexes 发表于 2003-8-20 19:52:00 | 显示全部楼层
好高兴啊,看来这次应该没问题了,Moskina真的成为Yulia Obertas / Sergei Slavnov的教练了!
当然,这意味着她同时带两对俄罗斯年轻选手,而他们会成为未来中国运动员主要的竞争对手。

消息转载自FSU

Today ’s Sport Express

Moskvina Will Prepare Two Teams for the 2006 Olympics

Famous Russian coach Tamara Moskvina, who this season has already started training the Russian pair Viktoria Borzenkova and Andrei Chuvilyaev, has started training another team ?Yulia Obertas and Sergei Slavnov.

These skaters have just started skating together this summer. (Prior to this, Obertas competed with Aleksei Sokolov under the tutelage of Ludmila and Nikolai Velikov.) Yulia and Sergei informed their previous mentors about their decision to switch coaches at the end of last week and by Saturday had joined Moskvina抯 group.

The kids came with prepared programs, and we most likely won’t change them,?Moskvina told SE correspondent Elena Vaitzekhovskaya. Probably, with time will include some new elements in both teams?programs. But that is a question for the future. It’s dumb to think that in the 2 years remaining until the Olympics, you can make some serious progress regardless of how great the coach is. So my working goal is to create a challenge for our two strongest Russian pairs world champions Tatyana Totmianina- Maxim Marinin (Trans. Silver medallists at worlds) and Maria Petrova-Aleksei Tikhonov.?br />
SE Commentary: The switch of the third-ranked Russian team to a new, albeit very strong specialist, forces one to think about the vulnerability of most Russian coaches. If Petrova and Tikhonov ?the only athletes remaining with Ludmila Velikov, retire at the end of this season (as they are now planning to do), the coach will simply be left without work and income to support her survival. There are many famous cases, when athletes upon dropping their formative mentors and starting to win with their new coaches, don’t feel any kind of financial responsibilities to the previous coaches. Therefore, in most cases, coaching switches are a very painful blow for the previous coaches. Especially when they are not the only ones.

There is nothing terrible about switching coaches in and of itself. Athletes have the right to control their own career. But if nobody thinks about defending the interests of coaches, the foundational base could dry up even faster than it is now doing.

Trans. M.Diffley

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下面是98年奥运会双人滑冠军中的女伴Oksana Kazakova 的采访,她现在是Tamara Moskvina 的助理教练。
Natasha翻译
http://spb.kp.ru/daily/sport/doc4016/

I get them with humor and toughness

Oksana Kazakova is helping Tamara Moskvina to coach a new pair

Oksana Kazakova’s appearance in a coaching role is a surprise. Famous skaters rarely make this jump ?the risk of failure in a new role is too great.

Q. Oksana, how did you get this crazy idea?
A. Two months ago Tamara Nikolaevna asked to help her and her new students, Vica B. and Andrei C. So I did.

Q. Are you confident you抣l be successful?
A. Even if I don抰 become a full-blown coach, I’ll be able to give something to my students. And that’s the most important thing. I’ll gain choreographic and artistic experience. I think that I’ll also give them something emotionally.

Q: Were you scared before the first practice?
A: I was anxious, like a high school kid ?although I knew I wouldn’t experience anything new. Then, in an hour, I was back in my comfort zone.

Q: Did it take you a long time to except Tamara Nikolaevna’s offer?
A: No. Why? If a coach of this caliber offers to work together, it’s not an accident. It means I have something special.

Q: Are you concerned that the famous coach will try to overwhelm you with her knowledge?
A: I’ll be happy if she overwhelms (laughs). But Moskvina is a type of person that will never do that. She’s too good of a psychologist.

Q: So, who is it, working with Moskvina?
A: At first, we couldn’t get along. But people told me that if I listen to her, it will benefit m
风语者 发表于 2003-9-4 08:53:00 | 显示全部楼层
我觉得他俩在这次世锦赛 上的自由滑编排是仅次于申雪赵洪博的,要比第二和第三名的好。珍珠港的音乐使整个节目即大气又不失细腻。可惜男伴的几个失误使整个节目的效果打了折扣。

我很希望申赵能用珍珠港的音乐,里面有不少的东方元素哦~~而且音乐大气有激情很适合他们的风格。
 楼主| figuresk8er 发表于 2003-9-5 20:12:00 | 显示全部楼层
Yes!!!! 太好了!现在希望Julia不要再换搭档了...
alexes 发表于 2003-9-5 22:38:00 | 显示全部楼层
是啊,希望他们能稳定下来。从照片上看Slavnov外型条件好象很不错,和Obertas挺般配的!
alexes 发表于 2003-10-16 00:47:00 | 显示全部楼层
Obertas&Slavnov



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风语者 发表于 2003-10-16 17:25:00 | 显示全部楼层
Julia怎么能和别列日娜娅相比,完全没有那份灵气嘛
alexes 发表于 2003-10-16 19:52:00 | 显示全部楼层
目前的Obertas当然不能和成熟的Elena比,但我觉得Obertas很有潜质,虽然她现在的表演还不是特别成熟,但在目前的年轻双人滑女选手中无疑还是很突出的,肢体的表演能力很好,很有Katia和Elena年轻时候的感觉,如果能和现在的搭档配合好,还是很有希望的。今年世锦赛上觉得Obertas虽然不是特别漂亮,但圆圆的脸很可爱的小样子。
Yvonne 发表于 2003-10-18 22:08:00 | 显示全部楼层
以下是引用风语者在2003-10-16 17:25:35的发言:
Julia怎么能和别列日娜娅相比,完全没有那份灵气嘛

话也不能这么说。julia漂亮是不及elena,可是看过elena94冬奥会的节目也不会想到她如今的成就会这么高。新人,需要时间嘛。
清清山泉 发表于 2003-10-22 11:11:00 | 显示全部楼层
julia没有elena有气质,但表现力很好,身材也不错,究竟能不能赶上她的前辈还要看今后发展。他们与张/张是主要竞争对手,张/张技术稍好,但julia表现力好很多,如果技术赶上,一定会超过张/张。今年世锦赛短节目领先就是示例。
发表于 2003-11-2 13:16:00 | 显示全部楼层
我 看了JULIA今年的自由滑,还不错 ,尽管有失误,但是有理由相信她的 明天会更好。他们的托举造型实在 漂亮!
感到他们 这对是今年 亮相的三队俄罗斯选手里外型气质最好的!
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