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原帖由 扶风 于 2008-2-26 22:11 发表

TO fs2046：B/A那个歇语我换给F/S了 汗
      你能帮我想个很适合他们的句子吗 我是真的想不到好的了

有个标题仅供参考，是我很喜欢的一句话，“清风舞明月，天地任我行”。用的是最浅俗的词，却勾勒出了最深雅的境，个人觉得和BA很配。我最欣赏BA的一点就是他们身上那种“入世的快乐，与出世的洒脱”。

Golden Skate上有篇很好的KN访谈，有俄罗斯冰迷把俄文翻成了英文，我简单整理了一下，问题部分用下划线标注，便于大家阅读。比较有趣的回答我用红色highlight出来了。这里的Yana就是Jana。其实这个J的确在俄文里发Y的音。

标题很有意思，叫“坏脾气和情绪化’，前者是Sergei，后者是Jana。具体原因见访谈最后。

Sergei4岁开始学滑冰，开始练的是单人，但跳跃能力不佳，后被迫改练冰舞，与Jana一拍即合。而Jana也是4岁上冰，13岁正式入行冰舞，她走上这条路完全源于对舞蹈的热爱，她说如果不搞花滑，她会选择从事舞蹈或艺术体操。她自认花滑之外没有其他天赋，而Sergei曾经是少儿合唱团的成员。业余时间，Jana喜欢积极的休息方式，好像保龄和台球；而Sergei最爱阅读和摇滚乐。读书的爱好，Jana最近迷上了托尔斯泰，而Sergei喜欢科幻悬疑小说。

The explosive and the emotional  （1）
Sergei Novitksi and Yana Khokhlova are the only army duo at the upcoming world figure skating championships. They won the bronze at a recent European championship. After the emotions died down a bit, the CSKA.ru journalist talked to the athletes not about some skating intricacies, but about what matters most.

How it all started
Yana, Sergei, I’ll start with a question I’m sure you’ve heard many times. Nonetheless – how did you come to skate?
Sergei: My grandmother brought me to the skating classes when I was 4. I think the classes were a part of the Dinamo School, but I can’t be sure as it was such a long time ago… Nobody thought it would come to be so important for me. Honestly, I didn’t like the ice training at first, but with time I got used to it, got into it, and even started enjoying it.
Yana: I started skating at around the same age, at the “Dimano” rink. I got into ice dancing at 13; prior to that I skated in the ice theater. By the way, Serega first skated as a single.

So your parents did not go through the arduous process of finding the perfect classes for you, you didn’t switch sports like many kids do?
Yana: No, I only skated.
Sergei: I also sang in a chorus! (laughs) No, I was also lucky, I didn’t waste my efforts on different things, and didn’t cheat on figure skating. Of course, I had to drop the chorus because even during childhood there wasn’t enough time, and I had to choose – singing or the sport. Seating in one place for three hours to sing – sorry, that wasn’t for me. Though I even liked it when I was little.

But you personally – did you ever want to try yourself in another sport, even in your dreams?
Yana: If there were no ice, I’d certainly still tie myself to dancing. I really like it. Or perhaps it would have been ballet or rhythmic gymnastics. Watching it is pure joy, at least. In other words, I’d choose art in motion. A very feminine choice.
Sergei: I never thought seriously about it. However, I am an ardent fan, and love to follow other sports.

Which teams do you root for?
Sergei: CSKA, of course! Soccer above all, then hockey, then basketball – for everyone, in a word.

Do you come to the matches?
Sergei: Alas, I only get to see it on TV. If that.

Did you ever want to just give up the sport altogether?
Sergei: There was something like that one time. It was around ’93 or ’94. The country was having a very hard time, athletic schools were closing, and nobody had any money. The school where I trained at the time was also closing. I was a “single” back then, but I was frankly a poor jumper. So I considered giving it up. Quite by accident, I was offered to try out in a dance duo. So I tried. That was that.
Yana: Luckily, I never considered it. Everything goes through hard times. It’s not just the sport. Sooner or later, the tough times end. You just have to be patient.

Science fiction, Tolstoy, and “DDT”
What do you like to do when you’re free from practice and competition? What interests you?
Yana: I like active rest! Going bowling, playing pool, or walking around central Moscow. Anything but loosing time in front of the TV!
Sergei: I like to read, or go to the movies.

What do you read?
Yana: Lately, I’ve been rediscovering the Russian classics. “Anna Karenina”, “War and Peace” – all the stuff I didn’t have the patience for in school. Maybe it’s for the best. The understanding of it is very different, even though only five years have passed. Understanding Tolstoy at 16 or after 20 is very different.
Sergei: I love science fiction. I used to read it indiscriminately, but now I gravitate toward the Russian one. I won’t say no to a quality mystery either.

What was the last thing you read?
Sergei: I’ve gotten addicted to a science fiction writer Levadny. At least I have enough time for reading. It’s something you can do when you’re traveling. Though not behind the wheel…

Lately, audio books have become quite popular. Have you tried to listen to them in a car?
Sergei: I tried it. I don’t like it. I like the process of reading. I guess I’m a visual person, and process things with my eyes best. Also, it’s nice to just hold a good book in your hands, even rustling the pages a bit.

What movies do you like?
Sergei: I like interesting movies. That says it all. I am no picky about the genre, the director, or the actors. The last film I saw in a theater was “I Am Legend”. I was happy. That’s more than I can say of “Alien vs. Predator”, which was the previous film I saw. That was just disgusting!
Yana: I am not very picky or discriminating in this. I just want the movie to be good.

What music do you like?
Sergei: Well, it’s hard to just name one thing. I like rock, bard music; in the car lately I’ve been listening to the classics – it’s quite relaxing.

I suppose there is no time to go to the concerts.
Sergei: Right. I’ve only been to a couple of concerts in my whole life.

Suppose, tomorrow all your practices are canceled, as are all your planned things to do, and you are told that you can choose any perform and visit their concert. Whom would you choose?
Sergei: “DDT” (Russian rock group), I guess.

Jana说她的第一笔奖金数目很小，她全用来买衣服和化妆品了。她说自己和所有女生一样爱扮靓，最喜欢高跟鞋（这点和Tanith一样），但她不喜欢自己的古典造型。保持身材苗条的诀窍是吃得健康，她不喜欢肉食，最爱各式蔬菜，不仅爱吃，而且爱烹饪。而Sergei却是典型的肉食主义者，最中意的美食是羊肉串。Sergei爱喝果汁，Jana中意茶和咖啡。退役后Sergei的志愿是成为一名企业家，而Jana说她不会考虑太多将来的事情。

在互相评价优缺点时，Sergei说Jana什么都好，尤其很有进取心，唯一的缺点是情绪化。而自己是个固执的金牛座，脾气不好。Jana说Sergei是个好男人，只是脾气暴。自己最大的缺点是没耐心，情绪化。

他们背靠背的回答却是惊人相似，看来‘坏脾气’和‘情绪化’的KN真是一对默契的搭档。

The explosive and the emotional  （2）

“I spent my first money on clothes”

Let’s go back to your childhood and adolescence. Do you remember your first serious victory? How did you spend the prize money?
Sergei: I don’t remember how I spent the money, but I remember the crazy emotions after Yanka and I had our first major win. It was the 2002 Universiad in Italy. Universiad is like the Olympics for the students. No one expected such a result from us, especially since we won with a good margin. It was, actually, our first international competition. I was just shocked.
Yana: Yes, but they don’t award money in the Universiad. I can say with certainty, that my first prize money, however small, I surely spent on clothes!

Or make-up?
Yana: Precisely! As a woman, you do understand! (laughs) When you’re young, you so want the expensive make-up. The more the better. It only goes away with it.

What do you prefer clothing-wise?
Yana: I like to look good. Of course, I always wear hills, even in the car. I get enough of athletic gear at practices. Though some of the sportswear they make lately is so nice, it’s hard not to fall in love with it. The only thing I don’t like is the classic look.

Yana, one more “woman” question for you. It was obviously very important in your sport for the girl to be light. Do you have to limit yourself to stay in shape?
Yana: No, I never follow any diets. I general, I don’t burden my body with food too much. During competitive season, I try to eat healthy and nutritional food. I generally don’t like meat. Sometimes, I’ll have chicken. I really like the lighter foods, especially vegetables.

Do you cook?
Yana: Of course! Especially on the weekends; we only have one practice session on Saturday, and don’t even have that on Sunday. That’s when I can fry and steam myself all the vegetables I want, make myself a nice salad. I like the salty, like adding spices.
Sergei: Me, I like the meat. I can do shish-kebab. Especially on a dacha, with friends – it’s our favorite food. The aroma alone is priceless. By the way, I also have no weight issues. At 27 years of age, I weigh 68 kg, and during competitions I always loose a couple of kilograms, so I need the meat to restore myself.

Any favorite drinks?
Sergei: I don’t favor alcohol much. I drink juices, really like punches. Having a beer is rather a rarity for me.
Yana: I mostly drink tea or coffee. I love fresh-squeezed carrot juice with cream. Delicious! Though few agree with me on it.

Where do you prefer to spend your vacations?
Sergei: Our last vacation was in Turkey with friends; it was essentially our first vacation abroad, usually we only go there for competitions, so we don’t have much to compare it to. But it was very nice.
Yana: We went on tours, including yacht tours, raced cars, and even did some rafting.

“Mom doesn’t watch my performances on TV”

Talk a little about your relationships with friends and parents. How do they support you during competitions?
Yana: My mom takes it all so close to heart, and worries so much, that she never even watches live recordings. She doesn’t worry as much when she just watches it pre-recorded. I guess the only time she attended an event was last year at the Russian Nationals in Mytyshi. However, the tension at the Nationals is nothing to the tension at Europeans. Last time she did not even watch it on TV. It’s nice to receive SMS messages before competitions from school teachers, grandparents, friends, or former classmates.
Sergei: I don’t have many friends, and only a few in Russia. Most of them are athletes, so they’re scattered around the world. For example, I have a good friend who always supports me, but he is in a show in London. The parents, of course, put their heart and soul into it.

Sergei, Yana, how do you see yourselves after your athletic career is over? Have you even thought about it?
Sergei: I’d like to try myself as an entrepreneur. I know business is not an easy task, but I’d like to try it. At least that’s what interests me now. If it weren’t for the sport, this is where I’d put all my energy.
Yana: I haven’t seriously considered it; for now, it’s important for me to achieve all I can in what I love, and I have found what I love. I don’t like to think ahead, especially to something like the end of career, as it’s too unpredictable. An injury can take anyone out of contention at any time.

Of getting up early and of personal weaknesses
Can you describe your average day?
Sergei: Today, I got up at six, left home at 6:35, and had the first two-hour practice session at 7:45. Then there’s time to eat, relax, and even nap a bit. After lunch, there’s another two-hour session, and now it’s seven PM, and I’m sitting in traffic, dreaming of getting home.
Yana: Serezha, you forgot to add that we also have choreography lessons separately from regular practice sessions; we sometimes do it off-ice. If I’m not too tired, I can meet up with friends in the evening. By the way, after the success at Europeans, we often meet with journalists, and have had invitations to TV and radio.

Wrapping up this nice conversation, can you distinguish the main fortes and weaknesses in yourself and your partner?
Sergei. Yana has many fortes, but the first one that comes to mind is being very goal-oriented. She is a good person and a good friend, so it’s hard to think of specific weaknesses, except for, perhaps, being over-emotional. I am a Taurus on the zodiac, so I am stubborn in a good sense, but have many weaknesses. The main one is having a temper.
Yana: I guess having a temper is Sergei’s main weakness. The main forte is his kindness. I am very emotional myself; I am impatient, so I want everything right away. Though I understand that you can’t get far in life without hard work. As for my fortes – let others judge those.

Sergei and Yana have been a team for the past 7 years; probably, that’s what made them give such similar answers to the last questions. After all, they were giving their answers from the opposite ends of town.

Ahead of the young and talented ice dancers is the World championship that will take place between March 17 and 23 in the Swedish city of Göteborg. Up until then, the army skaters will do nothing but train, since this is the first time in a while that they have more than a week and a half between competitions.

Author: Umamat Msusalayeva
Phote: Yuri Kuzmin

P/B这篇写的还是不够满意~~赶时间就是不好我会再改改看。。
截了一张那场都灵的图，表演完毕P的眼睛里都是湿湿的啊……  

再去翻翻以前的旧帖子，F那个专贴也要好好翻下了，对D/W还不怎么熟悉呢。。
全美的时候突然喜欢上他们的o(∩_∩)o...
PS:LS给的关于B/A“入世的快乐，与出世的洒脱"，形容的真好……一定要用上
      回plumluvzhenya：偶签名上滴两个人要放到最后再写呢

D/W这篇写完就算完工大半了~~ 写给同样清新坚韧的F
后面几只都很好写了，除了W/P生疏一点，其他都想的差不多了
明天是B/A

小护的这张截图有点诡异啊。。。

MSP门牙缝那个啥。。。

汗，LS也注意到了啊。。
我还特意截了张小角度的
不过护士真是美啊，那啥气质~~飘走

D/W写的好感人哇~陪着那个音乐看~真素赞啊赞~~~

好像自己心水的选手几乎都是没有什么概率登上领奖台的。笑

同笑 可还是爱他们~D/W的那段，亲写的真好哇！
亲的QMD，嫩慢慢地写吧，等~~~~~

LZ太油菜花了，看得偶泪汪汪，心慌慌滴

D/W和P/B那两段超级感动，不愧是亲爹亲妈，可怜天下父母心呀。

到了法国D/S还不得眼泪和着口水大决堤？

到了偶签名上的这两个人绝对不会发大水滴，保证嫩看到会暖和和的
后天写F/S~~

法国队备战世锦赛的消息：

French elite gather to prepare for worlds
Ice dancers practice in Lyon; rest of team meets in Poitiers




Isabelle Delobel and Olivier Schoenfelder performed very well at Europeans, and some believe that they should have received the gold medal.

By Jean-Christophe Berlot, special to icenetwork.com

(03/04/2008) - Two weeks before the 2008 World Championships, most of the French competitors gathered for a final tune-up in Poitiers, Brian Joubert's home city. Joubert, the defending men's world champion, will be joined in Gothenburg by fellow Frenchmen Yannick Ponsero and Alban Préaubert in the men's competition.

The ladies who have officially qualified are Gwendoline Didier, the 2008 French champion, and Candice Didier. In pairs, France will send national champions Adeline Canac and Maximin Coia and national runners-up Mélodie Châtaigner and Medhi Bouzzine.

The ice dancers did not have to be gathered. The top-three teams all train in the same rink in Lyon together and have the same coach too, Muriel Zazoui-Boucher. One month ago, at the 2008 European Championships, the French team performed well. Isabelle Delobel and Olivier Schoenfelder won the silver medal after winning the compulsory and original dances, Nathalie Pechalat and Fabian Bourzat took fifth place and Pernelle Carron and Mathieu Jost finished ninth. France was the only country to land three teams among Europe's 10 best.

I met the three duos at their home rink during one of their practice sessions, and they agreed to share their thoughts as they head into the world championships.

Isabelle Delobel: Talking without words

Delobel and Schoenfelder have always tried to create special and original themes. This year, they have elected to interpret the "language of signs" for the deaf and mute.

The day I was there, Delobel trained by herself as Schoenfelder recovered from a small injury he had suffered with his blade the day before. Isabelle still went through every move and every gesture during her program with Zazoui-Boucher watching every move. For Delobel and Schoenfelder, gold at the world championships is the goal, so these practices are all about polishing their routines to perfection.

"This program has become visceral for me," Delobel says. "I skate it from deep inside." She wants to skate it perfectly -- all the way from her feet to her arms and hands and eyes and head -- so that the judges and audience may relate equally to the story the duo wants to express.

Pechalat and Bourzat: Skating like mad

"For three months, we really tried to save Fabian's knee," Pechalat explains. Bourzat underwent successful surgery on a torn meniscus right after the 2007 ISU Grand Prix Final, for which the duo qualified for the first time this year.

"Everything is going all right now, but we still need to be cautious, because it is still fragile. Now we are going back to a normal training schedule," she explains, "and it takes a lot of energy!"

This year, Pechalat and Bourzat elected to interpret the theme of madness in their free program. Their routine, set to electronic music, requires a lot of energy. Two weeks ago, they worked their free program over again. Then they left for Russia to work on technical elements, and earlier this week, they worked with their Spanish choreographer on their original Flamenco.

"Now we have everything," Pechalat says proudly. "We just need to do it, do it and do it again."

Carron and Jost: Looking for a lift

Carron and Jost, who earned their first medal in the Grand Prix Series at Skate Canada last fall, struggled today. "In fact, we did not agree on our lifts," says a smiling Carron afterwards. "These things happen."

"Yet our season is over," Jost adds.

Carron explains that "France has got only two spots at worlds in ice dancing this year, and we are only substitutes. We keep training hard, but we really hope that Isabelle, Olivier, Nathalie and Fabian will have no problem until worlds."

"We have been training three-to-four hours a day as usual," Jost says. Their planning is quite hectic, though, as Jost is working full-time as a computer scientist. "So we train in the morning and then again at lunch time. Now I have to rush back to work."

Jost's family life is also blooming. He just bought a house between Lyon and Geneva, where his partner in life, 1997 ladies world bronze medalist Vanessa Gusmeroli, is coaching.

Carron is also quite busy. She is currently enrolled at the University of Lyon, where she is studying Law after receiving her B.A. in Art History.

As far as skating goes, Carron says that they "are also devising two more exhibitions. This year, we will do all 28 stages in the French tour, and we have two numbers to prepare for. We should use them next season as well."

"After the tour, later in May and June, it will be time to develop our programs for the upcoming season," Jost adds.

Carron also talks about getting to train with the top-two teams in France: "Indeed there is a lot of emulation amongst the three pairs skating here. Having three pairs training together is great. Nobody mentions it, but we watch one another, and you learn a lot watching others skate. Each time we see someone's level rising, then we try to catch up.... The difficulty is to create new things all the time -- to innovate and invent."

The French ice dancers are now ready to compete in Sweden with the rest of Team France.

非常感谢Sofia！ 好多从没看过的消息，没想到Jost在生活中和Vanessa Gusmeroli是一对，呵呵；看来关于Carron的专业之前是我弄错了 她是获得了艺术史学士学位后又攻读法律学位（羡慕呀……）
希望DelSch、PB从现在起到世锦赛能一切顺利；虽然CJ不大可能参加世锦赛了，还是要为他们的未来加油！

原帖由 昀灿 于 2008-3-5 22:16 发表
没想到Jost在生活中和Vanessa Gusmeroli是一对，呵呵；

WOW！！！HLL的姐弟恋！！！

Just joking，呵呵~~其实Vanessa的年龄也不是很大，比Jost大三年左右吧~~但是给我的感觉总是“辈分儿不一样”，嘿嘿~~之前一直是把Vanessa归到A/P那个年代的说~（其实她要年轻很多^_^）

Carron美女真是内外兼修，才貌双全，羡慕羡慕……

恩恩，在世锦赛之前要持续保持热情~~
按照这个进度，时间刚好。。。
下一个写C/J
某亲妈不要跑，就是你了，第一句话再想不好我可就自己写上去了||嘿嘿