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carolynbo014 发表于 2012-3-18 09:53:08 | 显示全部楼层
希望早点康复~~~圆梦之旅一切顺利~!
红苹果 发表于 2012-3-18 15:31:21 | 显示全部楼层
圆梦之旅一切顺利

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重圆旧地,当然是冠军了。  发表于 2012-3-19 17:52
圆什么梦啊?  发表于 2012-3-18 20:44
sunshine 发表于 2012-3-20 04:32:11 | 显示全部楼层
Icenetwork.com 关于世锦赛双人的报道,重点谈到对P/T的电子邮件采访, 以及S/S状态基本恢复等内容。(重点部分粗体标出;这篇文章有少许细节错误,用红色字体标出)
http://www.icenetwork.com/news/a ... 10960&vkey=ice_news

Pang, Tong wait on wedding, seek medal in Nice
Chinese veterans compete in 14th worlds; Germans at '99 percent'
By Lynn Rutherford, special to icenetwork.com

(03/19/2012) - After announcing their engagement and possible retirement, Qing Pang and Jian Tong are back for more.

China's two-time (2006 and 2010) world pairs champions, who have skated together for nearly 20 years, won a record fourth title at the 2011 Four Continents Figure Skating Championships in Chinese Taipei. There, Tong said it might be one of their final competitions and hinted at a wedding.

After winning won bronze at the 2011 World Figure Skating Championships in Moscow, the two did not compete in last fall's Grand Prix Series, taking time to heal some lingering injuries, including knee problems.

The break re-fueled their competitive fire, and wedding plans are now on hold.

"We mainly took some good rest, and then decided to come back to competing again," Tong said via an email interview last week. "Compared with before, we do have more difficulties [physically], but we still feel we are in good form. Like any other athletes, we have injuries. However, nothing serious, and we feel pretty good."

Pang and Tong -- who were teamed up by coach Bin Yao in 1993 -- last competed at the 2012 Asian Winter Games in January, defeating longtime teammates Dan Zhang and Hao Zhang. While they hit their trademark huge triple twist and throws, Pang faltered on a triple toe and double Axel in their free skate, and they also aborted their final lift.

"The two programs we have for this year are choreographed by Lori [Nichol]," Tong said. "The short [to Chopin's "Nocturne in C sharp minor"] has been revised since last season, and the long [to Rimsky-Korsakov's Scheherazade] is brand new."

Prior to the Asian Games, the duo worked with Shae-Lynn Bourne at Toronto's Granite Club, polishing their programs and brushing up their skating skills.

"They just wanted the finesse, better skating, not touching their choreography but just making it even better," Bourne said. "So they came for two full weeks to Toronto. I got to work with them twice a day. We just worked on quality, connection, that part of the package. There's more feeling; she's looking more feminine. I think they're in great shape."

At the 2012 World Figure Skating Championships, the veterans will be joined by three-time world junior champions Wenjing Sui and Cong Han, competing at their first senior worlds. Sui is half their age; Cong is some 13 years younger.

"The new pair has started to train some very difficult moves (including quad twist and throw quad Salchow) at a very young age," Pang said. "They have great potential, and their coach (Bo Luan) used to pair with our coach when they were competing."

In Nice, the Chinese teams will seek to qualify three pairs for next season's worlds. At last year's worlds in Moscow, two other Chinese pairs placed 13th and 14th, so despite Pang and Tong's bronze medal, China is only eligible to send two pairs this season.

Still, the placement doesn't seem uppermost in the skaters' thoughts.

"We want to skate two very beautiful programs for the audience," Pang said.

Next season, Pang and Tong plan to return to full-time competition, with hopes for another Olympic medal.

"We definitely hope to take part in the Sochi Olympics," Tong said.

So when is the wedding?

"I proposed to Qing Pang when we were performing in China [in Shanghai in June 2011]," he said. "There were flowers, piano played by Lang Lang, 20,000 people in the Chinese audience and nationwide live TV coverage. I bared my heart to Qing Pang in front of everyone, and I was very emotional and nervous.

"However, we really do not have wedding plans for the time being, as we still need to compete."

Germans pronounce themselves '99 percent' fit

Aliona Savchenko and Robin Szolkowy and their coach, Ingo Steuer, are hunkered down in their training rink in Chemnitz, refusing interviews as they prepare to defend their world pairs title in Nice.

The Germans, who won world titles in 2008 and 2009 as well as last season, withdrew from the 2012 European Figure Skating Championships in January after Savchenko tore a muscle in her upper left thigh while attempting a throw triple Axel in practice. Despite the injury, the pair performed in eight Swiss Art on Ice shows in Zurich and Lausanne the first week of February, avoiding spins, triple jumps and triple throws.

Upon her return to Chemnitz, Savchenko was treated by Dr. Manfred Kupfer, a well-known orthopedist and specialist in sports injuries.

It now appears the pair is back on track.

"We have reached 99 percent of our shape now, and next week we will be 100 percent fit," Szolkowy said after a practice last week, during which fans reported seeing them try throw triple Axels. "We are going to Nice in an optimistic mood. We have no more problems with Aliona's injury."

In Nice, the Germans will be challenged by world silver medalists Tatiana Volosozhar and Maxim Trankov of Russia, who placed a razor-close second to Savchenko and Szolkowy at the Grand Prix Final in December and won their first European title in the Germans' absence.

"After winning worlds three times, a fourth time would be very nice, but is not the most important thing to us," Szolkowy said in Sheffield. "Everything is in preparation for our main goal, which remains an Olympic gold medal in 2014."

Klaus-Reinhold Kany contributed to this article.

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我发现自己更关注标题的前半句,HC了~分数排名神马的都不放在心上了  发表于 2012-3-29 08:45
 楼主| 蕾蕾蛇 发表于 2012-3-27 02:01:18 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
pt下赛季要参加整个赛季的比赛,为冬奥会做准备。想想真是好快啊!今天他们进行了第一次适应性训练,从新闻视频上看气色不错,不过在练捻转时出现了小意外,清姐的胳膊打了佟健的鼻子一下佟健鼻子出血了

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sunshine 发表于 2012-3-27 02:35:18 | 显示全部楼层
体育新闻赛前训练报道:

sunshine 发表于 2012-3-28 22:49:33 | 显示全部楼层
2012世锦赛短节目中庞佟演绎的是肖邦的《升C小调夜曲》,这套浪漫唯美的短节目赢得了全场最高的节目内容分,虽然佟健在后外点冰三周中的失误,但在直线接续步上获得了四级的高定级和可观的技术加分。最终以67.1分的短节目成绩排名第二,与德国组合仅有1.53分的分差。

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红苹果 发表于 2012-3-28 22:58:27 | 显示全部楼层
自由滑加油,就可以了。
剪_秋 发表于 2012-3-28 23:05:18 | 显示全部楼层
{:soso_e149:}第一次看直播那个紧张哟……果然没经过历练啊我………………
遥遥 发表于 2012-3-28 23:37:10 | 显示全部楼层
短节目真美。虽然自由滑的签位在第一个出场,但hold住就好。希望能留套经典的自由滑在尼斯。
sunshine 发表于 2012-3-31 08:13:07 | 显示全部楼层
庞清/佟健微博流露隐退之意 故地见证12年青春无悔 http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2012-03-31/07026004384.shtml

http://sports.sina.com.cn  2012年03月31日07:02  新浪体育微博

  新浪体育讯 北京时间3月31日凌晨,2012年花样滑冰世锦赛在法国尼斯结束了双人自由滑的比赛。最终,中国名将庞清/佟健(微博)获得第四名,遗憾无缘奖牌。赛后,庞清/佟健在微博中流露出了隐退之意。

  本次世锦赛,是庞清/佟健本赛季首次在国际赛场亮相。短节目比赛,他们发挥出色,以67.10分位列第二,很有希望冲击奖牌甚至金牌。今天的自由滑,庞清/佟健演绎全新的《天方夜谭》,遗憾的是他们出师不利,开场的后外点冰三周跳佟健摔倒,而阿克塞尔两周连跳第一跳只完成了一周,落冰质量也不太理想。最终,庞清/佟健自由滑获得118.95分,总分186.05分最终排名第四位。

  赛后,庞清和佟健很自责,他们通过微博向冰迷们致歉,同时流露出了隐退的想法:“真是对不起广大冰迷的支持。今天第一个屁蹲摔蒙了,影响了后面的动作和成套表演。继续还是离开……我们要好好想想。”

  大多数冰迷都对这对神仙眷侣的表现做出了肯定。有网友在深夜留言说:“不论如何选择,支持喜爱不会变!”,还有人表示:“千万不要自责!你们已经展示了超越比赛本身的精神风貌,冰迷永远与你们分享酸甜苦辣。无论什么决定,都支持你们!”

  2000年,年仅20岁的庞清/佟健参加了在尼斯举办的的世锦赛,短节目中他们一曲探戈惊艳全场。最终初出茅庐的他们只收获了第15名。

  四年后的多特蒙德,庞清/佟健收获了自己的第一枚世锦赛奖牌。两年后,他们在卡尔加里终于尝到了金牌的味道,但这很难弥补他们一个月前在都灵冬奥会上无缘奖牌的伤痛。

  12年后,当年同场竞技的高手大都退隐,而这对神仙眷侣依旧与梦想作伴。12年时光荏苒,他们品尝过两届世锦赛夺冠的喜悦,经历过两届冬奥会的酸涩,忍受着岁月留下的伤痛,这对追梦人始终无怨无悔。(新体)
 楼主| 蕾蕾蛇 发表于 2012-3-31 12:21:16 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
佟健在微博表示对不起支持他们的冰迷,是继续离开还得好好想想。但清姐在接受采访时表示,会继续,下赛季从大奖赛开始从头再来。还是我清姐豁达,佟健好好配合媳妇,调整好心态好好训练!
小筠 发表于 2012-3-31 13:01:33 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
舍不得他俩退,节目太美,还没看够
东方水月 发表于 2012-3-31 15:16:28 | 显示全部楼层
清姐姐和佟健哥要是退了 我都没动力看了 看来还是喜欢时间太短 不知道论坛上的老人们在陈露和关颖珊退役后都怎么办的
小溪流水 发表于 2012-3-31 17:26:46 | 显示全部楼层
看了TGG新发的微博,还是忍不住哭了。不管接下来一年哥哥姐姐的成绩如何,依然爱他们、支持他们
 楼主| 蕾蕾蛇 发表于 2012-4-1 00:23:14 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
一天下来,大家对于pt这次失利,普遍还是理解和心疼。不过,我希望说几句理性的。首先,这次世锦赛的格局,大家都看到了,表面一片混战。其实裁判心目中的前三甲还是中俄德三对老将,tt完全是侥幸捡到了死鱼。从短节目的pcs上看,pt还是很得认可的。自由滑抽成现在的样子,没牌了也怪不得裁判。这个赛季他俩在节目内容方面的进步还是很可观的,滑行衔接都有了进一步提高,加上本来表演就好,裁判还是会很喜欢他们的。但是是佟健哥的心态,我真不认可,比砸了马上就灰心动摇想离开了,虽说好在被清姐拽回来了,又想着自己一年前心疼媳妇本来想去生娃之类之类的,戳得大家一片泪点。大家是心疼他们,但竞技比赛就是这么残酷,不管你多不容易,比不好就是比不好,裁判不可能因为你年龄大眷顾你。冰迷心疼你们裁判可能感情上也知道你们不容易,但打分上也不能无视你的失误。tj这次没比好,得好好总结真正导致没比好的原因,别光把大家的安慰和支持当饭吃,心情平静了以后好好想想为什么发挥失常。都参加了14届世锦赛了,应该非常成熟,为什么摔了一个就懵了导致本来擅长的动作也丢了了呢?是训练还不够扎实?还是比赛心态没有调整好?这些都是很具体实在的原因,比什么年龄伤病状态都好对付得多。佟健其实从10年以后就在去留问题上犹豫不决,对于比赛结果想的比较多有点想赢怕输,心理包袱很重。倒是清姐一直很坚定的坚持,带着拼的心态去训练比赛,没什么太多的想法,两次大赛都发挥得不错。我们都心疼他俩,希望他俩能休息。不过既然决定了坚持比赛,就不能再犹豫了。既然目标是前三,在这样竞争激烈的的环境下不能放松自己必须全力以赴,不能抱任何一点侥幸心理,比如自己蒙对,对手失误之类的。真的力不从心了,要么彻底休息,去享受生活大家也支持。要么降低一点对成绩的期望,放下包袱,不至于输了一次就灰心丧气。佟健这点应该像庞清学习,以前有人问过庞清没比好是不是因为有伤,她说作为成熟运动员伤病状态啥的都不是挡箭牌。佟健也应该好好向媳妇学习这种实事求是的态度对待失败。其实今年调整期没怎么比赛,成绩不好也可以接受,但如果他们准备继续征战的话,这种犹豫不决想赢怕输的心态必须甩掉,否则失败还会继续。既来之则安之,调整好心态积极面对每一天的训练,管理好伤病。他们的表演目前还是世界双人里最好的,冲这点,他们完全就有实现梦想的资本。只是,梦想在前方,路在脚下看你是不是踏踏实实一步一个脚印的走下去。

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cant agree more! 真正爱pt的冰迷,一定是提出有建设性的意见,而不是为pt找借口。  发表于 2012-4-4 22:05
同意以上观点。 TJ童鞋连续两年了。。。。 去年紧接在SS之后出场,因为SS刷新记录的高分,发挥受到干扰。今年紧接在VT之后出场,继续受干扰。往日重现,与心态不无关系。且不提去年,但今年VT的LP高分并不是事前没  详情 回复 发表于 2012-4-1 15:47
看了那么多微博、帖子,终于看到了非常中肯的评论。昨天自由滑比完我和sunshine聊QQ观点非常一致。  发表于 2012-4-1 01:16
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